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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;at every moment. A rod has a fixed length now, and in a second, and always.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;at every moment. A rod has a fixed length now, and in a second, and always.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== The hanging chain ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== The hanging chain ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;posts and found the curve it settles into. That account left the length out.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;posts and found the curve it settles into. That account left the length out.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;path is actually the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;best&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; one is a separate question, and the answer is more&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;path is actually the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;best&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; one is a separate question, and the answer is more&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;interesting than expected. It is at&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;interesting than expected. It is at&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>hamiltons-principle&gt;HPVBuild: Initial import of B-07</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Initial import of B-07&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Technical|Hamilton&amp;#039;s principle/Mathematics/Isoperimetric problems}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This page explains problems where a total is fixed in advance. It uses no&lt;br /&gt;
mathematics. The technical page it goes with is named above.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The oldest problem of this kind ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:OPL-HP-F-20.png|thumb|right|400px|Fixed perimeter, varying area.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You have a rope of a given length. Lay it on the ground in a loop. Which shape&lt;br /&gt;
encloses the most land?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The answer is a circle, and people have believed it for a very long time. Proving&lt;br /&gt;
it took much longer than believing it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Problems of this shape have a name that records the original: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;isoperimetric&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;,&lt;br /&gt;
from the Greek for equal perimeter.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The pattern is: make one thing as large or small as possible, while some &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;other&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
total is held fixed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== How this differs from the last page ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:OPL-HP-F-35.png|thumb|right|400px|A two-parameter family for an isoperimetric problem.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hamilton&amp;#039;s principle/Explainers/Multipliers]] dealt with constraints that apply&lt;br /&gt;
at every moment. A rod has a fixed length now, and in a second, and always.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is different. The rope has one length, for the whole loop. It is a single&lt;br /&gt;
fact about the entire shape, and it says nothing about any particular point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That difference changes what the price has to be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A constraint at every moment needs a price that can vary — cheap here, expensive&lt;br /&gt;
there. A constraint on a total needs a &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;single fixed number&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; for the whole&lt;br /&gt;
problem.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;One rule per moment gives a varying price. One rule for the whole thing gives&lt;br /&gt;
one price.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; That is the whole distinction, and getting it backwards is the usual&lt;br /&gt;
error.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Why you need two dials ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is a difficulty in setting these problems up, and seeing it makes the method&lt;br /&gt;
make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Earlier pages nudged a path with one dial. Turn it and you move to a nearby path.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Try that here and it fails at once. Nudge the rope&amp;#039;s shape and you almost&lt;br /&gt;
certainly change its length. The nudged shape is no longer a rope of the right&lt;br /&gt;
length, so comparing it to the original is meaningless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The fix is to use &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;two&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; dials. One nudges the shape. The other adjusts it back&lt;br /&gt;
so the length comes out right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Two dials, working together: one explores, one corrects. Now every path you&lt;br /&gt;
compare is a legitimate competitor.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The single price then falls out of the fact that it is one correction for the&lt;br /&gt;
whole path, not one per point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The hanging chain ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hamilton&amp;#039;s principle/Explainers/Free ends]] met a chain hanging between two&lt;br /&gt;
posts and found the curve it settles into. That account left the length out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Put it back. The chain has a definite length, fixed by how much chain you have.&lt;br /&gt;
That is a single fact about the whole chain — an isoperimetric constraint.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The answer is the same family of curves, moved up or down by an amount the price&lt;br /&gt;
sets.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And the price has a meaning again. It tells you the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;height of an imaginary&lt;br /&gt;
line&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; below the chain from which the tension is measured. At any point of the&lt;br /&gt;
chain, the pull is the weight of a length of chain equal to the height above that&lt;br /&gt;
line.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That is a real and useful fact. It tells you the chain is under least strain at&lt;br /&gt;
the bottom and most at the supports. Anyone hanging a cable needs to know that,&lt;br /&gt;
and the version that ignored the length constraint could not supply it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Why a slack cable and a taut one differ so much ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The same result explains something you can feel.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hang a chain loosely and it sags deeply. The tension is small.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Pull the same chain nearly straight and the tension becomes enormous. Not a little&lt;br /&gt;
larger — dramatically larger.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The reason is that a nearly straight chain has almost no downward slope for its&lt;br /&gt;
weight to press against. To hold the weight up, the sideways pull has to be huge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is why a washing line always sags a little, and why you cannot pull one truly&lt;br /&gt;
horizontal no matter how hard you haul. The tension needed goes to infinity as the&lt;br /&gt;
sag goes to zero. Something breaks first — usually the post.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The case the method cannot touch ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is one situation where the method fails outright, and it is worth knowing&lt;br /&gt;
because it looks like the easiest case.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Suppose the rope is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;exactly&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; long enough to reach between the two posts and&lt;br /&gt;
no longer. Then there is only one shape available: straight, taut, no slack.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is nothing to compare it against. Every alternative shape needs more rope&lt;br /&gt;
than you have. The two dials have nothing to work with — you cannot explore, and&lt;br /&gt;
you cannot correct.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The method needs alternatives. If the constraint pins things down so tightly that&lt;br /&gt;
only one candidate exists, there is no comparison to make, and the answer is&lt;br /&gt;
whatever the constraint allows.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is not a flaw. It is the method being honest about the fact that it is a&lt;br /&gt;
comparison tool, and comparison needs at least two things.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Working in reverse ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One pleasant feature of these problems: they come in pairs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ask for the largest area with a given perimeter. Or ask for the shortest perimeter&lt;br /&gt;
around a given area. Both give the circle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That is not a coincidence, and it holds generally. Swapping the quantity you&lt;br /&gt;
optimise with the quantity you hold fixed gives the same answers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So a soap bubble, which minimises its surface for the air it holds, is solving the&lt;br /&gt;
same problem as the rope on the ground. It arrives at a sphere for the reason the&lt;br /&gt;
rope arrives at a circle.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Where to go next ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Every result so far has found paths where the total stops changing. Whether such a&lt;br /&gt;
path is actually the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;best&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; one is a separate question, and the answer is more&lt;br /&gt;
interesting than expected. It is at&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hamilton&amp;#039;s principle/Explainers/Is it really a minimum]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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