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		<title>NT&gt;NoetherVolumeBuild: Noether theorems volume, initial import (B-01)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Noether theorems volume, initial import (B-01)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{DISPLAYTITLE:What an action is}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Mathematical counterpart: [[Noether&amp;#039;s theorems/First theorem/The action and the variational setup|The action and the variational setup]].&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:NT-F-02.png|thumb|right|360px|alt=Three curves between endpoints. A solid curve is the true path; a dashed curve with the same fixed endpoints is a variation; a third curve offset from both, with its own moved endpoints, is a symmetry-transformed path. A note distinguishes testing the action from mapping the whole problem.|A varied path against a symmetry-transformed path]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Both of Noether&amp;#039;s theorems are about one thing. This page says what that thing&lt;br /&gt;
is.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== A score for a whole history ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Throw a ball across a room. It follows one path. But you can imagine many other&lt;br /&gt;
paths it might have taken between the same two points: higher, lower, wobblier,&lt;br /&gt;
faster at the start.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Physics has a rule that gives each of those imagined paths a single number. The&lt;br /&gt;
rule looks at the whole path from beginning to end and returns one score. That&lt;br /&gt;
score is called the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;action&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The real path is the one whose score does not change when you nudge the path&lt;br /&gt;
slightly. That is the whole of what physics asks of the action, and it is enough&lt;br /&gt;
to determine how the ball moves.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Two features of this matter for everything that follows.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;The score belongs to a whole history, not to a moment.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; You cannot ask what&lt;br /&gt;
the action is at three o&amp;#039;clock. You can only ask what it is for a complete story&lt;br /&gt;
with a beginning and an end.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;The rule is separate from the score.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; The rule is a recipe: take the&lt;br /&gt;
position, take the speed, combine them like this. The score is what you get when&lt;br /&gt;
you feed a particular path into the recipe and add everything up. The same recipe&lt;br /&gt;
gives different scores for different paths.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== What it means to say the action does not change ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now suppose you change something. Move the whole experiment ten metres to the&lt;br /&gt;
left. Turn it forty degrees. Wait an hour and do it again.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Each of these is a change you can make in a smooth, adjustable amount — ten&lt;br /&gt;
metres or eleven, forty degrees or forty-one. Physics calls a change like this a&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;transformation&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The condition both theorems start from is this: after the transformation, the&lt;br /&gt;
score is the same.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Read that carefully, because it is easy to hear as something slightly&lt;br /&gt;
different.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; It does not say the recipe gives the same answer at every point&lt;br /&gt;
along the way. It says the total, added up over the whole path, comes out the&lt;br /&gt;
same.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That distinction sounds fussy. It is not. Two things change when you transform:&lt;br /&gt;
what the recipe returns at each point, and where the points are. Those two&lt;br /&gt;
changes can cancel. When they do, the total is unchanged even though the recipe&amp;#039;s&lt;br /&gt;
output changed everywhere along the way.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Almost every mistake made about Noether&amp;#039;s theorems traces back to this one point.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Three things worth fixing now ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;The condition is on the action, not on the motion.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; There are&lt;br /&gt;
transformations that turn real motions into other real motions but change the&lt;br /&gt;
score. Those look like symmetries and are not the kind either theorem uses. They&lt;br /&gt;
give nothing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Neither theorem tells you which transformations leave the score alone.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; You&lt;br /&gt;
have to find those yourself, by looking at the recipe. The theorems tell you what&lt;br /&gt;
follows once you have found one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;There is a weaker condition that also works, and Noether did not use it.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; It&lt;br /&gt;
allows the score to change by an amount that depends only on the two endpoints.&lt;br /&gt;
That version came three years later, from someone else, and this volume keeps the&lt;br /&gt;
two apart. See&lt;br /&gt;
[[Noether&amp;#039;s theorems/Explainers/Two ways a thing can stay the same|Two ways a&lt;br /&gt;
thing can stay the same]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Why start here ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Everything in this volume is downstream of the action. The first theorem takes a&lt;br /&gt;
symmetry of the action and returns a quantity that does not change during the&lt;br /&gt;
motion. The second takes a different kind of symmetry of the same action and&lt;br /&gt;
returns something else entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Neither says anything at all about a system that does not come from an action.&lt;br /&gt;
That is not a small restriction, and it is why this page comes first.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Why a score, and not a push ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There is an older way to do all of this. Newton&amp;#039;s way: work out the forces acting&lt;br /&gt;
at each instant, and step the system forward moment by moment.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Both ways give the same answers. So why keep a second one?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Because the two ways make different things obvious. The force picture makes it&lt;br /&gt;
obvious what is happening right now. The score picture makes it obvious what is&lt;br /&gt;
symmetric — and symmetry is invisible in the force picture, because forces are&lt;br /&gt;
local and symmetry is a statement about the whole.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Noether&amp;#039;s theorems are only available in the second picture. There is no version&lt;br /&gt;
of them that starts from forces, because there is nothing for a symmetry to be a&lt;br /&gt;
symmetry of. That is not a limitation anyone chose. It is the reason the score&lt;br /&gt;
picture, which for two centuries looked like an elegant alternative, turned out to&lt;br /&gt;
be the one modern physics is written in.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;No mathematics is used on this page. The mathematical treatment is on the&lt;br /&gt;
counterpart page named above.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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