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		<title>NT&gt;NoetherVolumeBuild: Noether theorems volume, initial import (B-30)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Noether theorems volume, initial import (B-30)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Mathematical counterpart: [[Noether&amp;#039;s theorems/Applications/General relativity and the energy question|General relativity and the energy question]].&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is the question Noether&amp;#039;s paper was written to answer. The answer is not that&lt;br /&gt;
gravitational energy is hard to define. It is that the thing being looked for does&lt;br /&gt;
not exist, and there is a rule saying exactly when it will not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The problem as it stood in 1918 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Every other field theory says how much energy sits in each small region. Gravity&lt;br /&gt;
does not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The quantity general relativity offers for the job behaves badly. Change your&lt;br /&gt;
coordinate labels and it changes. Pick any point you like and there are labels&lt;br /&gt;
making it zero there. A quantity you can make vanish by relabelling is not telling&lt;br /&gt;
you how much of anything is present.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For three years this was read as unfinished business. The theory was young, the&lt;br /&gt;
formalism unsettled, and somebody would eventually write down the right&lt;br /&gt;
expression.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The rule ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Noether&amp;#039;s answer is a rule with two sides, and both sides are needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;A conservation law is empty exactly when the symmetry it came from sits inside&lt;br /&gt;
a symmetry you can dial differently at every point.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Empty here means the sense on&lt;br /&gt;
[[Noether&amp;#039;s theorems/Explainers/A conservation law that is only wearing the costume|the&lt;br /&gt;
costume page]]: the conserved quantity is assembled out of the equations of motion,&lt;br /&gt;
so saying it is conserved reports nothing the equations had not already said.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now apply it. Energy conservation comes from the symmetry &amp;quot;shift everything in&lt;br /&gt;
time&amp;quot;. General relativity lets you relabel spacetime however you like, differently&lt;br /&gt;
here than there — and shifting everything in time is one such relabelling.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So the symmetry sits inside a local one. The rule fires. The energy relations are&lt;br /&gt;
empty, and no better expression is coming, because there is nothing to find.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The other side of the rule, which is the important half ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A rule that always said &amp;quot;empty&amp;quot; would explain nothing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Noether checks the other direction herself, in a footnote. Ordinary mechanics, and&lt;br /&gt;
special relativity: their energy theorems are &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;genuine&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Neither theory has a&lt;br /&gt;
local symmetry, so there is nothing for the global one to hide inside, and the&lt;br /&gt;
condition fails.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;That is what makes this an explanation rather than a restatement of the&lt;br /&gt;
difficulty.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; The rule separates the cases, and it puts gravity on one side and&lt;br /&gt;
everything else on the other for a stated reason.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Two misreadings ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;Gravity is the reason.&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; It is not. The rule is about symmetries, and any&lt;br /&gt;
theory meeting the condition behaves this way. Noether proves the point by&lt;br /&gt;
building a local symmetry out of a logarithm — a construction with no physics in it&lt;br /&gt;
whatsoever — and showing the empty energy relations appear exactly as the rule&lt;br /&gt;
requires. Gravity satisfies a condition; it does not cause one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;General relativity has no energy.&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Also not. For an isolated system — a&lt;br /&gt;
star with empty space stretching away in all directions — a total energy can be&lt;br /&gt;
defined by watching how spacetime behaves far away, and it is meaningful and&lt;br /&gt;
measurable. What is unavailable is the local statement: this much here, that much&lt;br /&gt;
there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The distinction is the one from&lt;br /&gt;
[[Noether&amp;#039;s theorems/Explainers/A flowing quantity and a standing total|the flow&lt;br /&gt;
and total page]]. Usually the total follows from the local statement. Here the&lt;br /&gt;
local statement fails and a total survives by a different route entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== And a second, unrelated problem ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Even where a spacetime does have a symmetry, most spacetimes have very few, and a&lt;br /&gt;
realistic one has none at all. That is the situation on&lt;br /&gt;
[[Noether&amp;#039;s theorems/Explainers/Symmetries of a curved space|the curved space&lt;br /&gt;
page]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Keep the two apart. No symmetry is a shortage. A symmetry swallowed by a local one&lt;br /&gt;
is a surplus. General relativity manages both, and describing either as &amp;quot;energy is&lt;br /&gt;
a problem in general relativity&amp;quot; flattens two different facts into one vague one.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== What the offending quantity actually is ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It has a name — a pseudotensor — and the name records the complaint rather than&lt;br /&gt;
explaining it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A proper physical quantity in general relativity has to behave in a definite way&lt;br /&gt;
when you change coordinate labels. Everybody must agree about it, even while&lt;br /&gt;
describing it in different words. That is what being a tensor means, and the&lt;br /&gt;
matter side of Einstein&amp;#039;s equations satisfies it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The gravitational energy expression does not. Relabel and it changes, and not in&lt;br /&gt;
the disciplined way a real quantity changes. Two observers using different labels&lt;br /&gt;
will not merely describe the same energy differently; they will disagree about&lt;br /&gt;
whether there is any.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For a while this looked like a construction that had come out slightly wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
Several people proposed alternatives — Einstein, Lorentz, Weyl and Hilbert each&lt;br /&gt;
had one — and Klein&amp;#039;s 1918 paper showed that all of them followed from a single&lt;br /&gt;
identity and differed only in which term had been absorbed where.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;That was the clue.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; A quantity that can be shuffled about that freely, with&lt;br /&gt;
no principle selecting one version, is not a quantity that has a value. It took&lt;br /&gt;
the criterion on this page to turn that suspicion into a proof.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;No mathematics is used on this page. The mathematical treatment is on the&lt;br /&gt;
counterpart page named above.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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