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Noether opens her paper by naming the people who had done parts of this before&lt;br /&gt;
her. That list is the best evidence available about what she thought she was&lt;br /&gt;
adding, and it is worth reading before anyone else&amp;#039;s account of the same&lt;br /&gt;
question.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Whom she named ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Her second sentence says that the combination of methods she is using — the&lt;br /&gt;
formal calculus of variations joined to Lie&amp;#039;s theory of groups — is not new for&lt;br /&gt;
special cases. She then names five parties, sorted by which kind of group they&lt;br /&gt;
had handled.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For special &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;finite&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; groups, meaning groups with a fixed number of&lt;br /&gt;
parameters: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Hamel&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Herglotz&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For special &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;infinite&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; groups, meaning groups depending on arbitrary&lt;br /&gt;
functions: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Lorentz and his pupils&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, with Fokker named as the example, and&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Weyl&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; and &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Klein&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
She adds in a footnote that a paper by &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Kneser&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; had just appeared, dealing&lt;br /&gt;
with the construction of invariants by a similar method. Elsewhere in the paper&lt;br /&gt;
she cites &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Engel&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. And the whole apparatus of continuous groups is&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Lie&amp;#039;s&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, cited by name in her third footnote to a specific work and later&lt;br /&gt;
to a specific theorem inside it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The loci she gives ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Her footnotes carry the references, and they are short. Hamel is cited to&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Mathematische Annalen&amp;#039;&amp;#039; volume 59 and to the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Zeitschrift für Mathematik und&lt;br /&gt;
Physik&amp;#039;&amp;#039; volume 50. Herglotz is cited to &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Annalen der Physik&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, fourth series,&lt;br /&gt;
volume 36, with section 9 at page 511 singled out. Fokker is cited to the&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Verslag&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of the Amsterdam Academy, 27 January 1917. Kneser is cited to&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Mathematische Zeitschrift&amp;#039;&amp;#039; volume 2. Engel is cited to the Göttingen&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Nachrichten&amp;#039;&amp;#039; for 1916 at page 270. For further literature she refers the&lt;br /&gt;
reader to Klein&amp;#039;s second note rather than compiling it herself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lie is cited to &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Grundlagen für die Theorie der unendlichen kontinuierlichen&lt;br /&gt;
Transformationsgruppen&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, in the reports of the Saxon Academy for 1891, which&lt;br /&gt;
she abbreviates as &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Grundlagen&amp;#039;&amp;#039; throughout. She uses it three times: for the&lt;br /&gt;
definition of an infinite continuous group as one whose transformations are the&lt;br /&gt;
general solutions of a system of partial differential equations; for the&lt;br /&gt;
normalisation that puts the identity at zero parameter values; and, at the&lt;br /&gt;
decisive point of her fourth section, for Theorem VII at page 391, which is what&lt;br /&gt;
lets her pass from a group of infinitesimal transformations back to a group of&lt;br /&gt;
finite ones.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;A caution on Hamel.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Secondary reference lists in this area sometimes give&lt;br /&gt;
Hamel&amp;#039;s relevant papers as &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Mathematische Annalen&amp;#039;&amp;#039; volume 66 and a 1917&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Jahresbericht&amp;#039;&amp;#039; note. Those are not the loci Noether gives. Either she is&lt;br /&gt;
pointing at different papers or one of the two lists is wrong. This has not been&lt;br /&gt;
checked and the citations above are hers, read from her own footnotes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== What is not settled ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Naming a precursor is not the same as measuring what they anticipated, and&lt;br /&gt;
Noether does neither. Her sentence says the combination of methods is not new in&lt;br /&gt;
special cases. It does not say how much of either theorem was already in Hamel,&lt;br /&gt;
or in Herglotz, or in Lie.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This volume does not answer that question. Answering it means reading the eight&lt;br /&gt;
cited papers against the two theorems, and deciding for each what it establishes&lt;br /&gt;
and under what restriction — work that has not been done here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What can be said is where the boundary of the claim sits. Both theorems are&lt;br /&gt;
statements at a generality nobody in the list attempted: arbitrary numbers of&lt;br /&gt;
independent variables, derivatives of arbitrary order, transformations mixing&lt;br /&gt;
dependent and independent variables, and both converses. Anticipation of a&lt;br /&gt;
special case is not anticipation of that. But this volume states that as the&lt;br /&gt;
shape of the question, not as its answer.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Provenance: the names, the loci and the finite-against-infinite sorting are&lt;br /&gt;
read directly from the German original, which is public domain. None of the&lt;br /&gt;
cited precursor papers was read. No priority claim of any kind is made or&lt;br /&gt;
implied by the ordering above. See [[Noether&amp;#039;s theorems/Sources|Sources]].&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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