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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Noether theorems volume, initial import (S-07)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{DISPLAYTITLE:The two theorems side by side}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Plain-language counterpart: [[Noether&amp;#039;s theorems/Explainers/The two theorems compared|The two theorems compared]].&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:NT-F-06.png|thumb|right|360px|alt=A three-column comparison table. Rows: what each theorem takes, what it returns, where it holds, what happens when the field equations are imposed, whether a conserved quantity results, and whether the converse is proved. Theorem II&amp;#039;s conserved-quantity row reads none.|The first and second theorems side by side]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Every page in this volume that needs the distinction links here. The comparison&lt;br /&gt;
below is read off the two finished proofs, not asserted.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The table ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! !! Theorem I !! Theorem II&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Group&lt;br /&gt;
| finite continuous, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\varrho&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; constant essential parameters&lt;br /&gt;
| infinite continuous, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\varrho&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; arbitrary functions, entering to order &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\sigma&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Output&lt;br /&gt;
| &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\varrho&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; linearly independent combinations of the Lagrange expressions become divergences&lt;br /&gt;
| &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\varrho&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; identical relations among the Lagrange expressions and their derivatives to order &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\sigma&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Form of the output&lt;br /&gt;
| &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\sum\psi_{i}\bar{\delta}u_{i}^{(\lambda)}=\mathrm{Div}\,B^{(\lambda)}&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| left side of (N16) &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;=0&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Where it holds&lt;br /&gt;
| identically, in all arguments&lt;br /&gt;
| identically, in all arguments&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! On setting &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\psi_{i}=0&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| becomes &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\mathrm{Div}\,B^{(\lambda)}=0&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;, a conservation law&lt;br /&gt;
| becomes the statement that &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\varrho&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; field equations follow from the rest&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Conserved quantity&lt;br /&gt;
| yes: the current &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;B^{(\lambda)}&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;, the charge its cross-section&lt;br /&gt;
| none. Nothing flows&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Converse&lt;br /&gt;
| proved, section 3, with one case left undecided&lt;br /&gt;
| proved, section 4&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Where the proofs part&lt;br /&gt;
| (N12) splits by equating coefficients of the &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\varepsilon&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| (N12) cannot split; derivatives of &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; are removed by (2) of S-02, then the boundary choice kills the divergence&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The one place they diverge ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Both proofs run identically from (N1) through (N9), (N11), (N3) and into&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\sum\psi_{i}\bar{\delta}u_{i}=\mathrm{Div}\,B\qquad\qquad\mathrm{(N12)}&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That is roughly nine tenths of the work, and it is shared. What follows depends&lt;br /&gt;
on one property of &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\bar{\delta}u&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\bar{\delta}u&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; is linear in constant parameters, the parameters&lt;br /&gt;
are independent, (N12) holds coefficient by coefficient, and&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\varrho&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; divergence relations drop out.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\bar{\delta}u&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; is linear in arbitrary functions &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;and their&lt;br /&gt;
derivatives&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, no such split exists, because &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\partial p/\partial x&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
is not independent of &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;. The derivatives must first be traded away&lt;br /&gt;
against the coefficients, which generates a divergence; then the freedom to&lt;br /&gt;
choose &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; vanishing on the boundary kills the whole right-hand side,&lt;br /&gt;
and what is left is zero rather than a divergence.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;The right-hand side is the difference.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; One theorem ends with a divergence&lt;br /&gt;
on the right, the other with nothing. Everything else follows from that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Three errors this page exists to prevent ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;The second theorem is the local version of the first.&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; It is not a version&lt;br /&gt;
of the first. Different input, different output, different consequence of&lt;br /&gt;
imposing the field equations. The table&amp;#039;s third and sixth rows are the check.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;The second theorem gives conservation laws for local symmetries.&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; It gives&lt;br /&gt;
identities. When a local symmetry does produce something that looks like a&lt;br /&gt;
conservation law, that law is improper in the sense of&lt;br /&gt;
[[Noether&amp;#039;s theorems/Second theorem/Proper and improper conservation laws|the&lt;br /&gt;
criterion page]] — its conserved quantity is assembled from the field equations&lt;br /&gt;
and carries no information they did not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;General relativity is why energy conservation is degenerate.&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; The&lt;br /&gt;
criterion is group-theoretic and biconditional. General relativity satisfies its&lt;br /&gt;
condition. So does the logarithmic group Noether constructs with nothing physical&lt;br /&gt;
attached. Her closing remark says this in as many words.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Which one is the paper about ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Both, but not equally. Theorem I is stated first and is the one that entered&lt;br /&gt;
physics. Theorem II is the one the paper was written to prove: it is the answer to&lt;br /&gt;
the Göttingen question, it occupies the final section, and it is what&lt;br /&gt;
Hilbert&amp;#039;s assertion needed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This volume&amp;#039;s editorial position, stated as such: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;quoting only Theorem I gives&lt;br /&gt;
the corollary without the argument.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Readers are free to disagree, and&lt;br /&gt;
[[Noether&amp;#039;s theorems/History/What Noether&amp;#039;s theorem now means|the history track]]&lt;br /&gt;
records how the other reading came to dominate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Provenance: every row of the table is read off the two proofs in this volume,&lt;br /&gt;
which are in turn read from the public-domain German original. The three errors&lt;br /&gt;
and the closing position are this volume&amp;#039;s own and are marked as editorial. See&lt;br /&gt;
[[Noether&amp;#039;s theorems/Sources|Sources]].&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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